it looks like the 2 people mentioned above are having a whale of a time but i can say its not these young people have put in many hours learning how to fish what bait to use learning about the fauna and flora/environmental issues that can effect a fishing pond and local communities the get hooked on fishing scheme is not just about angling it is about group work speaking to others passing on what they have picked up .
Out of the 23 young people who turn up come rain or shine we have all learned a lot , we have a dedicated team of peer mentors who give loads of time to help me out with coaching ect
Parents who turn up are encouraged to help out in any way possible ie surveying the participants capturing some of the most important comments that are talked about on the bank side before any person wets a line
ALLAN ELLIS GHOFF COORDINATOR
no need for the thank yous this is a project that i enjoy doing and as for your two lads it is a pleaseure passing on to 2 young lads that are willing to learn see them soon allan
I would like to say a very big thank you to Alan and his team for showing such willingness to help my two boys learn about fishing. Travis and Bradley attend every week and are having a " brill time" as put by themselves. this scheme has gone above and beyond to help the kids enjoy themselves everytime, So again an extra big thankyou and a pat on the back for all you do, may the scheme grow in the coming years and help many more youngsters, myself and my partner are always here to give a helping hand xxxxxx
I suggest you contact your ADB regional officer and ask if there is funding available to do a level 1 coaching course which would include a CRB check.
Your club could begin working towards a Clubmark accreditation.
Deails on the angling trust website or from me mel.creighton@btopenworld.com
There is no doubt that becoming involved with angling when I was young diverted me from the anti-social and sometimes destructive behaviour engaged in by others of my age, especially in my teenage years. Knowing that I was interested, older anglers in my area with access to transport would offer to take me fishing with them and teach me more of the sport that fascinated me. This was in the 1960's.
At a recent meeting of my angling club the assembled members were asked if anyone would volunteer to take a young beginner with them on one of their outings, with the intention of boosting the dwindling number of young people in the club. Several members declared themselves more than happy to do so and some discussion ensued about how this initiative should be organised with much enthusiasm being shown. The whole enterprise was brought to a crashing halt when one member, a teacher, pointed out that in this day and age no-one would be allowed to participate without a full C.R.B. check which would involve some expense and paperwork. The committee is looking into the details of this but it seems that the initiative might be shelved as being too complicated. Meanwhile opportunities are being lost to engage some of our local youth in a worthwhile pursuit that would do wonders for their personal development.
While it is obviously necessary to safeguard young people, the club is quite capable of monitoring the scheme and vetting the participants on its own. Until we can get rid of unneccesary bureaucracy and overcome the groundless fears that have permeated into modern society it will be increasingly difficult for people like myself and members of my club to pass on the joy and pleasure of the sport that we love to a new generation.
A post further up quoted that we export 75% of our commercial catch, the post just above this one says we import almost 90% of all seafood consumed in the UK, I think it is about time someone gave up the exact figures to clarify what we do and do not import/export. I think the answer is quite simply "STOP EXPORTING" sustain our own country first and foremost. This way the 12000 ish commercials that we have as quoted by somebody else in a previous post could be dramatically reduced to the numbers that are needed to cover the uks demand for all our seafood. The rest of the commercials could very easily be bought out and sunk creating many man made wrecks/reefs for the seas to replenish themselves. The commercials who are bought out could then (if they had any sense that is) take the compensation given and re-invent their business with charter boats, capable of taking the many anglers in the country out to catch what would be a sea full of fish. It does not take einstein to work out why the seas are bare, they know why, and it certainly does not take einstein to work out how to fix the problem. Take a look at the revenue Norway brings in to the country. I'll step down from my soap box now.
Thanks for your comment - I've forwarded this to the specific Assynt research site as you're more likely to get a response from AAG. www.assynt.anglingresearch.org.uk
Best, Adam
I visit Sutherland twice every year and have hired boats to fish various lochs using the excellent Assynt Angling Group.I am arriving in a few weeks time for my 2010 visit and am very disappointed to find that the east zone lochs ie.Loch Awe,Ailsh,Veyatie etc.are now managed on behalf of the Group by the Inchnadamph Hotel.This situation is fine if you are staying in that vicinity,but if you are living in Lairg as I do, you encounter miles of travel to pick up keys,drive back the way you came to fish,drive back to the hotel to return the keys,then drive in the opposite direction to get home.
Come on Assynt Angling group.It makes sense to have a vendor in proximity to angler's accommodation and with petrol prices what they are would avoid all this traval back and forth.I know for a fact many anglers use Lairg as a base surely you can arrange for boats to be hired from a location there? My second visit is booked for later in the year lets hope something is done to resolve this situation.
Thank you very much for the extensive feedback here. I think the points you raise are very important.
In response to securing the future of angling, the Angling Development Board aims to develop the sport of angling and their approach (available as the Whole Sport Plan on their website) focuses on increasing more general angling opportunities: i.e increasing number of coaches, matches, links with schools and club access- the theory is that such measures will cater for the take up of angling by young people more widely. However because our research mandate is to explore the 'Social and Community Benefits of Angling', we do not have the scope or resources to look at what works and does not in relation to the talking up of angling amongst young people- that would certainly be another research project I would love to be involved in if the resources could be found!
Our Lottery funding directs our focus towards socially excluded young people, and indeed this is a valuable part of angling's contribution which remains unpublicised when compared to other sports such as football. But while our research aim is to discover and illustrate the benefits young people get from angling rather than how to sustain angling’s future, I do believe that highlighting these benefits will make angling’s case stronger. In addition, we are also launching a young person’s questionnaire this month to explore issues such as access to clubs/fisheries, and why young people chose to go angling that may well shed light on appropriate ways to encourage long term participation.
Once again, thank you for your comments, getting feedback from members of the angling community is extremely important and it is good to know someone has taken the time to read our work.
Substance published its Interim Reports for the Social and Community Benefits of Angling research project on December 11th 2009.
There is a Summary Interim Report (PDF 0.8MB) providing an overview of the project to date and 3 other Interim Reports relating to the main research areas in the project:
it looks like the 2 people mentioned above are having a whale of a time but i can say its not these young people have put in many hours learning how to fish what bait to use learning about the fauna and flora/environmental issues that can effect a fishing pond and local communities the get hooked on fishing scheme is not just about angling it is about group work speaking to others passing on what they have picked up .
Out of the 23 young people who turn up come rain or shine we have all learned a lot , we have a dedicated team of peer mentors who give loads of time to help me out with coaching ect
Parents who turn up are encouraged to help out in any way possible ie surveying the participants capturing some of the most important comments that are talked about on the bank side before any person wets a line
ALLAN ELLIS GHOFF COORDINATOR
no need for the thank yous this is a project that i enjoy doing and as for your two lads it is a pleaseure passing on to 2 young lads that are willing to learn see them soon allan
I would like to say a very big thank you to Alan and his team for showing such willingness to help my two boys learn about fishing. Travis and Bradley attend every week and are having a " brill time" as put by themselves. this scheme has gone above and beyond to help the kids enjoy themselves everytime, So again an extra big thankyou and a pat on the back for all you do, may the scheme grow in the coming years and help many more youngsters, myself and my partner are always here to give a helping hand xxxxxx
GHOF FLINTSHIRE IS HEADING IN THE RIGHT WAY WITH 23 YOUNG PEOPLE ATTENDING A SESSION TOMORROW 13 AUGUST
I suggest you contact your ADB regional officer and ask if there is funding available to do a level 1 coaching course which would include a CRB check.
Your club could begin working towards a Clubmark accreditation.
Deails on the angling trust website or from me
mel.creighton@btopenworld.com
There is no doubt that becoming involved with angling when I was young diverted me from the anti-social and sometimes destructive behaviour engaged in by others of my age, especially in my teenage years. Knowing that I was interested, older anglers in my area with access to transport would offer to take me fishing with them and teach me more of the sport that fascinated me. This was in the 1960's.
At a recent meeting of my angling club the assembled members were asked if anyone would volunteer to take a young beginner with them on one of their outings, with the intention of boosting the dwindling number of young people in the club. Several members declared themselves more than happy to do so and some discussion ensued about how this initiative should be organised with much enthusiasm being shown. The whole enterprise was brought to a crashing halt when one member, a teacher, pointed out that in this day and age no-one would be allowed to participate without a full C.R.B. check which would involve some expense and paperwork. The committee is looking into the details of this but it seems that the initiative might be shelved as being too complicated. Meanwhile opportunities are being lost to engage some of our local youth in a worthwhile pursuit that would do wonders for their personal development.
While it is obviously necessary to safeguard young people, the club is quite capable of monitoring the scheme and vetting the participants on its own. Until we can get rid of unneccesary bureaucracy and overcome the groundless fears that have permeated into modern society it will be increasingly difficult for people like myself and members of my club to pass on the joy and pleasure of the sport that we love to a new generation.
John Buckingham.
A post further up quoted that we export 75% of our commercial catch, the post just above this one says we import almost 90% of all seafood consumed in the UK, I think it is about time someone gave up the exact figures to clarify what we do and do not import/export. I think the answer is quite simply "STOP EXPORTING" sustain our own country first and foremost. This way the 12000 ish commercials that we have as quoted by somebody else in a previous post could be dramatically reduced to the numbers that are needed to cover the uks demand for all our seafood. The rest of the commercials could very easily be bought out and sunk creating many man made wrecks/reefs for the seas to replenish themselves. The commercials who are bought out could then (if they had any sense that is) take the compensation given and re-invent their business with charter boats, capable of taking the many anglers in the country out to catch what would be a sea full of fish. It does not take einstein to work out why the seas are bare, they know why, and it certainly does not take einstein to work out how to fix the problem. Take a look at the revenue Norway brings in to the country. I'll step down from my soap box now.
Thanks for your comment - I've forwarded this to the specific Assynt research site as you're more likely to get a response from AAG. www.assynt.anglingresearch.org.uk
Best, Adam
I visit Sutherland twice every year and have hired boats to fish various lochs using the excellent Assynt Angling Group.I am arriving in a few weeks time for my 2010 visit and am very disappointed to find that the east zone lochs ie.Loch Awe,Ailsh,Veyatie etc.are now managed on behalf of the Group by the Inchnadamph Hotel.This situation is fine if you are staying in that vicinity,but if you are living in Lairg as I do, you encounter miles of travel to pick up keys,drive back the way you came to fish,drive back to the hotel to return the keys,then drive in the opposite direction to get home.
Come on Assynt Angling group.It makes sense to have a vendor in proximity to angler's accommodation and with petrol prices what they are would avoid all this traval back and forth.I know for a fact many anglers use Lairg as a base surely you can arrange for boats to be hired from a location there? My second visit is booked for later in the year lets hope something is done to resolve this situation.
Thank you very much for the extensive feedback here. I think the points you raise are very important.
In response to securing the future of angling, the Angling Development Board aims to develop the sport of angling and their approach (available as the Whole Sport Plan on their website) focuses on increasing more general angling opportunities: i.e increasing number of coaches, matches, links with schools and club access- the theory is that such measures will cater for the take up of angling by young people more widely. However because our research mandate is to explore the 'Social and Community Benefits of Angling', we do not have the scope or resources to look at what works and does not in relation to the talking up of angling amongst young people- that would certainly be another research project I would love to be involved in if the resources could be found!
Our Lottery funding directs our focus towards socially excluded young people, and indeed this is a valuable part of angling's contribution which remains unpublicised when compared to other sports such as football. But while our research aim is to discover and illustrate the benefits young people get from angling rather than how to sustain angling’s future, I do believe that highlighting these benefits will make angling’s case stronger. In addition, we are also launching a young person’s questionnaire this month to explore issues such as access to clubs/fisheries, and why young people chose to go angling that may well shed light on appropriate ways to encourage long term participation.
Once again, thank you for your comments, getting feedback from members of the angling community is extremely important and it is good to know someone has taken the time to read our work.